Xref: utzoo comp.admin.policy:405 comp.unix.admin:2195 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!batcomputer!cornell!uw-beaver!milton!sumax!polari!rwing!happym!josh From: josh@happym.WA.COM (Joshua_Putnam) Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,comp.unix.admin Subject: Re: E-mail Privacy Message-ID: <3673@happym.WA.COM> Date: 11 Jun 91 19:00:44 GMT References: <1991May26.004112.15971@ms.uky.edu> <1991Jun05.142444.839@heitis1.uucp> <1991Jun8.034713.11224@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> <1991Jun9.073804.1969@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA Lines: 42 In <1991Jun9.073804.1969@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: > otto@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu writes: > news@heitis1.uucp (News Administrator) writes... >> That makes sense. The Census Bureau doesn' know >> from privacy. >Quite the opposite. Up until last year, when the >temptation to implement Big Brother methods apparently >overcame good sense, the Census Bureau has been utterly >fanatic about protecting the privacy of its RECORDS, >not employees, since any hint of scandal would mean no >more freely furnished Census Data about all the snoopy >questions that they ask with a promise that the answers >will remain anonymous. Yes and no. The individual responses are kept secret for decades. But the Census has long released local breakdowns detailed enough to be used for zoning enforcement (illegally rented spare bedrooms), building code violations (What do you mean someone on this street doesn't have indoor plumbing? That's illegal -- we'd better condemn the house and make them homeless.), targeting sales campaigns, and finding Japanese Americans who needed to be sent to the Arizona desert for their own protection :-( The Census may be much better than some other government agencies, but it still goes a long way to degrade individual privacy by providing such a detailed starting point for those who do the actual invading. This may account for the trouble the Census had in obtaining freely furnished answers to its snoopy questions this time (such as all the people who wrote in "human" under "Race", and who refused to answer many other questions). In any case, this thread is veering away from the email issue, and probably from these groups in general. -- Joshua_Putnam@happym.wa.com Happy Man Corp. 206/463-9399 x102 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399 fax x108 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor. (NextMail Info. free (sample $20): E-mail patty@happym.wa.com. okay too)