Xref: utzoo comp.os.msdos.apps:2133 comp.windows.ms:13766 Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.windows.ms Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!uunet!vuse.vanderbilt.edu!jsims From: jsims@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (J. Robert Sims) Subject: Re: MS-DOS v5.0 Release Date 11th June Message-ID: <1991Jun13.161907.25853@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@vuse.vanderbilt.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: vuse Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA References: <1006@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> <72798@microsoft.UUCP> <6669@gssc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1991 16:19:07 GMT In article <6669@gssc.UUCP> timr@gssc.UUCP (Tim Roberts) writes: >In article <72798@microsoft.UUCP> bobsc@microsoft.UUCP (Bob SCHMIDT) writes: >>(David Crowley) writes: >>%% Ohh, yea and another thing. Is it possible to set up expanded >>%% memory, extended memory, put stuff up in himem and still be able >>%% to run win in standard mode? I couldn't get it to work. I can >>%% only run in 386enh mode which is fine, but I was wondering?-) >> >>As for the conflict between DOS 5 UMB support and Windows '286 mode... >>You're not hallucinating; the conflict is real. Windows detects that >>some other protected-mode software is running, and won't load. I can't >>say if/when this conflict will go away. > >Bob, is this the official Microsoft position, or are you speaking on your own? >Your last sentence shows extreme short-sightedness and a lack of understanding >of the seriousness of this problem. > It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was the official position. I called tech support because Word for Windows appeared to be grabbing more system resources than it should; I had two documents open, and couldn't print due to insufficient memory! (With _ample_ available RAM). The resources figure was quite low, but from what I could tell WfW was grabbing over 50% of system resources. Tech support told me that the resources had disappeared into a black hole; the solution was to restart Windows, because Windows does not properly release resources when applications are finished. When I asked about an update, I was told that "Microsoft doesn't consider this to be a bug," and that I should reboot my machine often to eliminate the problem. Microsoft said the same thing about a bug in Word for Dos 5.5's postscript driver. In certain fonts (Courier, I think), subscripts are totally misaligned horizontally. I was told that this fix was not on their future plan; their developers were working on a different project. Microsoft tech support is also unhelpful with any problem or question not documented in the manual, and does not return phone calls when they say they will. Microsoft's policy is to develop something until it's saleable, and then screw anybody with problems. If Microsoft developers would spend more time on the core of the software, and less on fancy hidden credit screens, the software might be better. Rob