Xref: utzoo news.admin:15209 news.software.b:8246 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!ucla-cs!twinsun!usenet From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.software.b Subject: Re: Recently observed nonconforming Message-IDs (discussion) Message-ID: <1991Jun13.155005.5218@twinsun.com> Date: 13 Jun 91 15:50:05 GMT References: <1991Jun12.071111.29652@twinsun.com> <1991Jun13.042834.20543@zoo.toronto.edu> Sender: usenet@twinsun.com Organization: Twin Sun, Inc Lines: 19 Nntp-Posting-Host: dew henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >Uh, do bear in mind that RFC1036 message IDs are much more leniently >defined than 822/1123 message IDs. While it may be unwise to use news >message IDs that are not legal mail message IDs, it is not disastrous. Practically speaking, this is correct: after all, I wouldn't have observed the nonconforming Message-IDs if they hadn't propagated through part of Usenet successfully! But RFC-1036 says ``all USENET news messages must be formatted as valid Internet mail messages, according to the Internet standard RFC-822.'' RFC-1036 places its own constraints on message format, but it doesn't remove any RFC-822 constraints. Of the 388 nonconforming Message-IDs that I found, only 10% had C News format. This is a good record, since 40% of the conforming IDs had C News format. The two problems were nonconforming domain names, probably due to a C News installer answering conf/build's questions incorrectly, and multiple `@'s, probably due to NNTP mishaps.