Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!hsdndev!cfa203!thakur From: jelkind@garnet.berkeley.edu (The Unexpected Tiger) Newsgroups: rec.arts.cinema Subject: Crimes and Misdemeanors Message-ID: <1991Jun11.164342.13441@zerkalo.harvard.edu> Date: 11 Jun 91 16:43:42 GMT References: <1991Jun9.000517.10781@zerkalo.harvard.edu> <1991Jun9.070254.11134@zerkalo.harvard.edu> <1991Jun10.195909.12597@zerkalo.harvard.edu> Sender: thakur@cfa.harvard.edu (Manavendra K. Thakur) Reply-To: jelkind@garnet.berkeley.edu (The Unexpected Tiger) Followup-To: rec.arts.cinema Organization: The Anglo-Bengalee Disinterested Loan and Life Assurance Co. Lines: 37 Approved: thakur@zerkalo.harvard.edu In article <1991Jun10.195909.12597@zerkalo.harvard.edu> npc@electron.physics.arizona.edu (Nick Christenson) writes: >In C&M, the use of eyes as symbolism is terrific. . . . I like C&M quite a bit (it's a much better film than "Alice" for instance, IMHO) but I personally felt that the bit about rabbi going blind = the blindness of God was just a trifle forced, and less than a trifle lacking in subtlety. The symbolism that I found most appealing was the use of the Schubert G major quartet. When the movie came out, there was a discussion in rec.arts.music.classical wherein some people felt that he should have used the "Death and the Maiden" quartet, which I think would not have been nearly as effective. The G major quartet is "about" the fundamentally irreconcilable conflict between major and minor (it keeps switching back and forth the whole way through), which exactly matches the kinds of moral conflicts that the characters undergo. Including Woody Allen's character, who can't realize that Alan Alda's character indeed has some redeeming features. >. . . .Is there a higher justice as his father suggests or does >might make right as his mother says (his flashback in his old house >of his family's dinner party.) I think you missed part of the point. It wasn't a dinner party, but the Passover seder. I think that Allen himself may be making some belated realization of the true significance of his Jewishness (i.e. other than as a source for laughs like the great scene in Take the Money and Run where the experimental treatment has the side effect of turning him into a hassidic rebbe). But beyond that, the seder is one of the basic rituals centered around the idea of (a) God's place in the world and (b) trying to find a moral structure for the world. IMHO, the seder scene is the only one of Allen's non-parodistic Bergman ripoffs that really works. I am referring to the scene in "Wild Strawberries" where he goes back to his family breakfast party. Richard Schultz