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From: spickett@orion.oac.uci.edu (Steve Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Long gun for rural property advice request
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Date: 11 Jun 91 13:47:24 GMT
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In article <35433@mimsy.umd.edu> roc@sequent.com writes:
#
#I agree.  The .30 carbine is a good round that does not deserve the
#derision heaped upon it.  It's a relitively low power round (110
#grains at about 1500 fps, right?), but very controllable, and accurate
#enough at 100 yards to regularly hit a man size target.
#
#The M1 carbine has about the same recoil and noise level as the AR-15,
#and is a *lot* cheaper.  (Under $200 surplus.)  Soft points are available.
#(Maybe hollow points too, although I've not yet seen any.)  The .30 carbine
#cartridge is a bitch to resize, though.
#
#			Ron
#
##[MODERATOR:  Note that the original poster mentioned 15 acres.  Not a 
##lot of elbow room for a .30-'06, hmm?  Also, they mentioned recoil from
##a shotgun as a consideration.  For what its worth, my original response
##to them was to consider a surplus .30 carbine -- cheap, light, plentiful
##ammo, etc.  Maybe not the fight-stopper that a .375 H&H would represent,
##but then again it should be adequate for most of the criteria originally
##mentioned.  If not used for defensive purposes, then some kindly local
##could also make up some handloads with nice jacketted hollow points, instead
##of hardball, to get better stopping power for hunting. ....]

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The Marlin camp rifle in either 9mm or 45acp might be another alternative.

--Steve