Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!boingo.med.jhu.edu!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!swdev.waterloo.NCR.COM From: brian@swdev.waterloo.NCR.COM (Brian W. Gamble) Newsgroups: rec.guns Subject: Re: shotgun shell loads Message-ID: <35455@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 11 Jun 91 13:47:32 GMT Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: NCR Canada Ltd, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Lines: 54 Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu In article <35304@mimsy.umd.edu> dave@ucscb.ucsc.edu (66350000) writes: # Delete key here .... # #I, noticed the difference. Shooting Activ's #6 bird loads was downright #painful! # And here ... #Is there anybody out there who has used Activ loads and noticed the heavier #recoil, as compared with most brands of shotgun shells? If so, any infor- #as the Winchester shells we also happened to have) Another possibility: these #shells did not have the usual brass casing on the outside, the plastic covered #the outside, with the metal _inside_ . Would this cause a difference? # #Any info posted regarding this subject would be most appreciated. # #David Ferrell #UC Santa Cruz (for the moment) One more time with the shotshell noise. I just increased my stock of Active hulls because they please me greatly. I'll try to shed some light here. Active hulls have a larger internal capacity than other brands of hulls. All else being equal, they will have lower pressures and less recoil. However, measuring shot shell characteristics by the size of the pellets inside is a very common failing. This is not the way to to choose the velocity of your loads (and hence their recoil)! The recoil you felt was the combination of the mass of lead pellets (measured in ounces) and their velocity (stated in drams). The Active loads that brused you had either more shot or were loaded to a higher velocity (or both). For less than ten dollars you can get a shotshell loading manual and learn the basics of shotshell construction and loading. Try one and then you can start choosing loads that do the job you want them to. Don't feel bad about the basic error here, most people who come into the shop looking for shotgun shells do the same thing. Does get to be fun trying to get them to learn some basic physics, sigh :-) You want details about load for Active hulls, send me EMail and I'll dig out the info. Don't have the load tables at the office, eh! -- Brian W. Gamble, Brian.Gamble@Waterloo.NCR.COM NCR Canada Ltd. E&M Waterloo Charter Member -- The ShoeString Racing Team