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From: marko@hutch (Mark O'Shea)
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Subject: .30 cal carbine (was Re: Long gun for rural property advice request)
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Date: 11 Jun 91 21:14:54 GMT
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In article <35433@mimsy.umd.edu> roc@sequent.com writes:
#I agree.  The .30 carbine is a good round that does not deserve the
#derision heaped upon it.  It's a relitively low power round (110

Oh yes, it does.  I was required to shoot one for several years in the AF
before the advent of the M16.  I was never able to qualify as an expert
with it.  I was an NRA "Expert" class marksman in high power and qualified
every time as an expert with the M16.  I shot on the Air Defense Command
High Power Team for two years.

#grains at about 1500 fps, right?), but very controllable, and accurate
#enough at 100 yards to regularly hit a man size target.

By who?

The .30 cal carbine is a good plinker and maybe even a passable small
game round (provided the game holds still for three rounds), but don't pass 
it off as a self defense weapon please.  All of the guys I know who where in 
Korea and got issued one of them, swapped it at the first opportunity for 
an M1.

One of my elk hunting partners who was at Chosan (sp?) Reservoir calls the M1 
carbine (.30 cal) the "worst piece of shit I ever shot".

My uncle who was in the National Guard for 25 years says the M1 is a .22 with
delusions of grandeur.

Gun Control Means Being Able to Hit Your Target
Mark O'Shea
marko@ijf1.intel.com