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From: emory!Dixie.Com!jgd@gatech.edu (John G. DeArmond)
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Subject: Re: .30 cal carbine
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MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman) writes:

#The M1 Carbine is very good at doing what it's supposed to do. It's not
#a marksman's rifle, or a sniper's weapon, or anything like that. It
#was conceived as an alternative to the sidearm for non-infantry troops.
#The cartridge has ballistics similar to the .357- i.e., a hot handgun
#round. Given the choice of reaching for my .357 or my carbine in a tight
#situtation, I'd grab the carbine with a couple of 30 round magazines.
#IMHO, of course.           --mike

I agree.  The ballistics and thhe loading parameters are almost identical.
In fact, for the standard military 30 cal ball (130 gr?), the maximum
load of Winchester 231 (a good pistol powder) which consists of filling
the case to the brim, wiping it off level and compressing the powder
with a bullet, is within a few grains of a hot .357 load.

Like Mike, given the choice between a .357 and my Enforcer (.30 cal carbine
with the barrel bobbed at the end of the forestock and with a pistol
grip) with a couple of 30 round mags, there is no doubt what I'd select.
I'd never go to the National Matches with a .30 carbine but I'd sure
use it for self-defence and close in work.  And to beat all, it's a
damn fun gun to shoot.  Not near the muzzle blast and about the same
recoil as .223.

John

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