Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sample.eng.ohio-state.edu!purdue!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!apt.bungi.com From: leone@apt.bungi.com (Marc Leone) Newsgroups: rec.guns Subject: Re: Long gun for rural property (Marlin Camp Carbines) Message-ID: <35617@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 14 Jun 91 00:56:56 GMT Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: APT Technology, Inc. Lines: 39 Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu #From article <35476@mimsy.umd.edu>, by cash@convex.com (Peter Cash): # In article <35433@mimsy.umd.edu> roc@sequent.com writes: # # # #I agree. The .30 carbine is a good round that does not deserve the # #derision heaped upon it. It's a relitively low power round (110 # # Anybody know about the reliability of these carbines? How about the # relative merits of the .45 vs. the 9mm version? Does anybody make an # extended magazine (i.e. > 8 rounds) for the .45 version? For those who don't know ^^^^ this is ACP. I have one in .45 and I've used the 9mm version, too. At a local range, on the 50yard target range, they were both super. The 9mm had a wonderful scope and the .45 was more accurate than I would have thought, given the fact that the front sight covered the target (I'm not talking 'groups' here, just managing to stay mostly in the black, the 9mm was probably capable of groups, but I was having fun, not working, Eddie, any input?). However, on the 100yard tin can alley, the .45 was a lot of work, it would always be close, but rarely could I get a direct hit with it. My SKS-56, on the other hand was terrific, especially at cleanup (the bottles faking 'death' or hiding behind clumps of dirt or the debris of their fellows...) with its iron sights. Not that I recommend the SKS-56, but for me it has been a pretty good plinker. I wouldn't recommend the .45 Carbine for a rural rifle because it is a pistol round not a rifle round. I consider mine more of a toy (and part of a series of guns in .45ACP) than a tool. But since this is a discussion on the various rifles for use on a rural property, what's wrong with a lever action 30-30? It's _the_ cowboy rifle, right? Seems to me to be a very good answer to the question. Or, if you insist on a pistol round in a rifle, a lever action in .44 or the Timberwolf pump .357magnum. -- #< Marc Leone @ APT Technology Inc., San Jose, CA #< leone@apt.bungi.com {apple,sun,pyramid}!daver!apt!leone #< VOICE: 408 377 9950 FAX: 408 377 0374