Newsgroups: sci.bio Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!news.media.mit.edu!media-lab.media.mit.edu!minsky From: minsky@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) Subject: Re: Coelocanth and evolution: x Message-ID: <1991Jun13.220310.16428@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <472.28511bf9@mbcl.rutgers.edu> <34@tdatirv.UUCP> <476.2856b24b@mbcl.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1991 22:03:10 GMT kliman@mbcl.rutgers.edu remarked, >The original question posed - can a species remain unchanged for that long - is fun to think about. Consider that all we know about those "living fossils" is that their external appearance hasn't changed very grossly. However, a good proportion of the genome goes into the brain structure and connections -- and we cannot see much of that. Now it seems to me that there is a nice opposition here: any gross skeletomuscular change has a central nervous price, because the reflex systems and higher level instincts need reprogramming. (That is, to the extent that the local learning systems cannot easily adapt.) And conversely, the less superficial change, the easier to evolve new behavioral adaptations. So, to first order, the more the Coelocanth seems the same -- outside -- the more different it would be -- inside! Of course, that wouldn't be true to second order. Because new behavioral abilities brings with it new possibilities for changing