Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!wuarchive!uunet!lll-winken!sun-barr!newstop!jethro!exodus!appserv!sun!amdcad!amdcad!military From: creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Creps) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Soviet use of "Aircraft Carrier" title Message-ID: <1991Jun13.055813.24036@amd.com> Date: 13 Jun 91 00:32:03 GMT References: <1991Jun1.012523.27313@amd.com> Sender: military@amd.com Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Lines: 41 Approved: military@amd.com From: Steve Creps There are three classes of Soviet ships that possibly can be considered aircraft carriers. The first, the Moskva (Moscow) class, is actually designated (according to [1]) "helicopter cruiser (CVS)." This is clearly a cruiser, as the forward half of the ship follows the traditional cruiser design (it's not flat, and it has lots of weapons). The aft half of the ship is a flat landing deck large enough for only helos to take off or land (possibly VTOLs too, but it doesn't carry those). Its weaponry consists of SA-N-3's, SS-N-16's, RBU-6000 ASW rockets, Ka-25's (helos), and guns (57mm). Note that the "-N-" in "SA-N-3" and "SS-N-16" means it's the naval version of a missile, not that it's a nuclear weapon. The next class, Kiev, can be considered an ASW CV at best (my opinion). Source [1] calls it "aircraft carrier (CVSG)," which seems to indicate "ASW aircraft carrier, guided missile." The Soviet Navy calls them "tactical aircraft-carrying cruisers." Its armament consists of SS-N-12's, SA-N-3's and 4's, guns (76mm max), 533mm torpedoes, RBU-6000's, Yak-38A's and B's (aircraft), and Ka-25's and 27's. These ships are primarily ASW platforms, and would be no match for any U.S. carrier, whether or not the two sides' support ships (CGs, DDGs, etc) are considered (my opinion). The third and most able class is the new Kremlin class. I'm not sure of the current status of this class (I believe the first may have just begun service within the past two years), or very many of its specs, but it will be a larger nuclear-powered ship probably capable of carrying some "real" aircraft. Sources: [1] _Modern_Naval_Combat_, David Miller and Chris Miller -- Steve Creps creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (129.79.1.6) {inuxc,rutgers,uunet!uiucdcs,pur-ee}!iuvax!silver!creps