Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero-c!nadel From: mjm@ahimsa.intel.com (Marjorie Panditji) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Viewing Gifs Message-ID: <1991Jun11.155757.17816@aero.org> Date: 10 Jun 91 20:53:32 GMT Sender: news@aero.org Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA Lines: 56 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Regarding the sexually explicit or nude pictures available for viewing on computers, I do believe that such pictures, whether of men or women (or assorted barnyard animals) are not appropriate for work. In fact, these pictures probably fall under the "hostile environment" category of sexual harassment. If a person has to work in an environment which displays this type of picture, I believe they have grounds for complaint and even legal action if nothing is done after they complain. I don't know what is considered the work environment, e.g., pictures inside someone's office vs. those displayed in a common work area. However, I believe that if you have to go into a person's office in order to do your job then their office is considered part of your work environment. Getting back to the gifs, if they are displayed in some area you have to work in, or are available from computer owned by your company, I think that would count as hostile environment. Note that you can complain about sexual harassment whether you are male or female. Check out the March 18, 1991 issue of BusinessWeek, Legal Affairs column, for an interesting article about sexual harassment in the workplace. Now for a little sarcasm: C'mon, boys, if you really want to jack-off at work, why not get something with a little better resolution than your computer screen? There are plenty of slick, glossy mags you can buy at adult bookstores that would be more of a turn-on. You could keep them in your desk, or take them to the men's room for more privacy (hard to drag your computer with you into the men's room). That is, if you simply can't survive for 8 or 9 hours without it (I mean, otherwise, you could just wait until you got home, right?). On a more serious and curious note: Does anyone know why people display these pictures at the office? I have seen a few women displaying pictures, too, so it is not only men who do this (although men seem to be in the majority and their pictures seem to be more, uh, graphic). I don't want to discuss whether it is morally "right" or "wrong" (although there may be legal consequences, as I mentioned above, if it is perceived as sexual harassment). I just don't understand the benefit. It would seem to be more enjoyable, and would lead to more productive work, to get your turn-ons in private. Note that I am not asking why people enjoy these pictures, I am asking why they enjoy them *at work*. On the other hand, the motive may be something else. For example, men may do it to intimidate women (perhaps to claim their personal territory?), and women may do it as "revenge" or to show men how it feels to be displayed (or even for the same reasons as men, I don't know). Perhaps these pictures are displayed for "artistic" reasons? :-) I'm making no claim to know the reasons. I'm curious what others think. Any thoughts on this? Any studies on pin-ups in the workplace? -- Marjorie Panditji mjm@ahimsa.intel.com -or- uunet!intelhf!ahimsa!mjm Disclaimer: I do not speak for Intel and Intel doesn't speak for me.