Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: NU169273@vm1.nodak.edu Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: The New Birth Message-ID: Date: 14 Jun 91 03:23:55 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network Lines: 35 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu This is a response to Michael Horsch's post over my original post on 'The New Birth.' Mainly, I want to clearify briefly. ------------------------------------------------------------ Michael mentioned a "confession of sorts" by Nicodemus. Nicodemus originally recognized Jesus as "a teacher come from God" in John 3:2. Logically, Nicodemus (a man of the Pharisees...a ruler of the Jews) must have either seen some of the teachings of Jesus Christ in person, or come by it by word of mouth, or etc. Anyways, my point is Nicodemus only acknowledged Jesus as a teacher come from God. He HAD NOT acknowledged Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior like a born again Christian has. Nicodemus had never truly seen himself as lost and deserving of hell. I believe Nicodemus was being honest with himself in that he was missing something (namely the Lord Jesus Christ as his personal Savior). I believe Nicodemus was searching because of the preaching of Jesus Christ which he had heard either directly or indirectly. Remember God's word will not return void. I'm sure someone out there will probably read this and wonder what K. Paulson is talking about in the "The New Birth" post. My other point is that salvation is NOT a tingly feeling. Being born again is not the after effect of conversion. Conversion is being born again. Trusting in a feeling (rather than repenting to God the Father and placing all your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ to save you) IS NOT Bible salvation. I'm not suggesting what Michael was trying to say in this last paragraph. I'm just clarifying, here. K. Paulson N. D. S. U. student 1372 32nd Street South West #20 Fargo, ND 58013