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From: prabhu@nas.nasa.gov (Dinesh K. Prabhu)
Subject: Re: J. Krishnamurti
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In article <1991Jun14.021730.14602@nas.nasa.gov> radams@cerritos.edu writes:
>
> [I have edited four lines out of this article. These lines contained my
>  signature which got appended to Sitanshu Kumar's article on J. K.
>  This was due to an oversight on my part. Sorry about the confusion.
>  --Dinesh]
>
>>There has been over past many weeks some remarks about J. Krishanmurti
>>and his teachings. Some of them have come from people who are followers
>>of some gurus(mostly Indian, or Japanase). As Krishnamurti vehemenently
>>attacked the idea of gurudom(not the gurus) the author has seen an attempt
>>to denigrate K by many people. It is one thing to say that one has not
>
>I may be one of the ones you are refering to as someone who has been
>critical of Krishnamurti in a previous post.  I have been a long time
>admirer of J. Krishnamurti - he was a great soul.  One cannot dispute
>with Krishnamurti on his own terms, using his method of conversing and
>posing questions to the listener.  Especially when he was conducting a
>talk, he would control the conversation and force people to participate

Why did you get forced?? To be exploited is to exploit. Sorry but you
dont seem to be putting forward a rational statement. 'K' did not
hold a gun to your head did he??

>on his terms.  I have read alot of Krishnamurti and heard parts of many
>tapes of his, but I see a flaw in his rejecting of gurus and teachers.
>He seems to say that all gurus just exploit their followers and do little
>else.  This is pure nonsense.  There have been many selfless gurus who

Did 'K' ever say that all gurus are non sense?? As far as I know he attacked
the idea of the techer and the taught , one who knows the way to reality
and the one who does not. To him there is no way to reality (e.i.truth
is a path less land). The teacher and the taught are one from the begining.
There is a lot involved in the techer and taught relationship, e.i. 
conformity, obedience and forced descipline. These are aspects of darkness,
a mind that does these things is held in darkness, and how do you reach
light through darkness??  He never said which teacher did what, as a matter
of fact lot of these so called teachers came to him and confessed that what
he was saying was the highest truth.( I personally know of these people) 


>did nothing but serve others.  Did Ramana Maharshi exploit and use his
>followers to his own selfish and worldly ends? 

it is not for another to say. he you want me to make a guess, probably not.
>One profound influence Krishnamurti had on me has caused me to reject

>any authority that seems to exist for its own sake and is self serving.
>The many rules and exclusive clauses of the various religions has caused
>me to reach the point where I tell people that I don't belong to any
>religion but at the same time, I see some truth in all the religions
>(even though sometimes you really have to dig deep for it :-).  
>
>	Roger Adams
>
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