Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!fsu1.cc.fsu.edu!otto From: otto@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu (John Otto) Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy Subject: Re: SUSPEND SYSOPS, NOT STUDENTS Message-ID: <1991Jun19.204950.18191@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Date: 19 Jun 91 20:51:05 GMT References: <20740@slice.ooc.uva.nl> Sender: news@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Usenet News File Owner) Reply-To: otto@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu Organization: Florida State University Lines: 28 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 Nntp-Posting-Host: fsu1.cc.fsu.edu In article , brendan@cs.widener.edu (Brendan Kehoe) writes... >ropg@ooc.uva.nl wrote: >>Yeah, hang the hackers and even the students that just play around, >>hang all those ugly 12 year olds that just walk through our 'heavy' >>security. Why not hang kids that ring your bell and then run away >>the government. Do NOT (I repeat NOT) try to learn something from the >>structure of UNIX, in fact, give up C and program in COBOL only! > While I don't agree with the result of GA's actions (although I'm >glad to see the guy was only suspended, and not full-fledged expelled), >I have to back them up on their original premise---if one of my users >mailed my passwd file out to anyone, I wouldn't just pat him/her on >the hand and say that they'd been bad. I wouldn't drive them onto a >cross either, though. I'd like to see equal penalties for administrators who release information amongst their "colleagues" within the U. I.e. if a student is suspended for releasing confidential information to people who should not have access to it, the registrar (e.g.) should be suspended for a like period for releasing confidential information to members of the U staff who have no need for that exact information in order to do their work, nor should the fact that said registrar (e.g.) organized his records in such a way that un-needed information was integral with needed information be reason for acquittal. If university "policies" (and corporate "policies") provided symmetry in application and enforcement, I think a lot of people would be a lot happier and cooperative in efforts to develop and enforce such policies.