Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!jb3o+ From: jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone) Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy Subject: Re: SUSPEND SYSOPS, NOT STUDENTS Message-ID: Date: 19 Jun 91 23:43:53 GMT References: <20740@slice.ooc.uva.nl> <20790@slice.ooc.uva.nl> <1991Jun18.033333.27450@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> <1991Jun18.174430.12050@dsd.es.com>, <1991Jun19.050956.8626@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 36 In-Reply-To: <1991Jun19.050956.8626@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> jarober@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (DE Robertson james an 740-9172) writes: > From what I have read, you are AMORAL. respassing and violating my right to > privacy is not an alternate morality, it is the absence of one. Just because > you know HOW to take an action does not make it ok. While I agree that the poster was really naive, you, jarober, are anything but a philosopher. Certainly, AMORALITY is a sense of right and wrong - in the sense that you have some ability (whether innate or beaten into you by others) to verbally and physically state and act upon a patter of right and wrong with consistency. Now, in your case, there are certain things which are right (you feel ok doing them) and certain things which are wrong (you don't feel ok doing them). If I am AMORAL, then I too have a patter (everything is ok). Now, this man is not AMORAL, from what I have seen. He just is a lot less uptight than you. It's like saying that it's ok to know how to rip off the phone company (this means it's right) but it's not ok to rip off the phone company (this means it's wrong). See, obviously he has a sense of right and wrong (assuming he subscribes to that belief). Now, when I say "I have the right to check your doors and windows to see if they will allow me to get in and not only that but I have a right to get in and take things if I want and kill you if I want and perhaps, if I feel like it, even drink all your Kool-Aid or Coke-A-Cola or somesuch" THAT IS AMORALITY (a belief that there isn't a valid line to draw in order to form the dialectic of right and wrong). ----------------------------------|++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | "He divines remedies against injuries; | "Words are drugs." | | he knows how to turn serious accidents | -Antero Alli | | to his own advantage; whatever does not | | | kill him makes him stronger." | "Culture is for bacteria." | | - Friedrich Nietzsche | - Christopher Hyatt | -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-