Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!batcomputer!cornell!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!jb3o+ From: jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone) Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy Subject: Re: Student suspended for distributing /etc/passwd Message-ID: Date: 19 Jun 91 23:49:42 GMT References: , <3746@happym.WA.COM> Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 34 In-Reply-To: <3746@happym.WA.COM> Irving_Wolfe@happym.wa.com writes: > I am not concluding that passing along /etc/passwd should be > considered even mildly criminal. But it is entirely reasonable to > kick him off the system completely for a term or two, so that some > work in the real world might give him more prudent judgment. A > year's delay in the student's career is of minor consequence, > compared with the valuable gift of maturity, insight, and > consideration for others that the suspension might encourage. Of course, this is an opinion, which, as usualy, some people will not agree with. Paternalism sucks (I think). I think that a year setback in a student's carreer IS a big thing. I know - I'm one of those students. Of course, I'm also a sys-admin, but I don't play one on T.V. (yet!) Some people would argue that I've matured since my suspension from classes for inattentiveness, etc. I don't agree - I've not learned anything new about maturity or responsiblity or any other of the supposedly wonderful benefits of suspension. The only pros are that I have learned a lot more about Unix-like systems, I have learned to think better of myself and that others CAN care about me, and I have showed that if I try, I CAN make a 4.0 and work a full-time job at the same time, all without assitance from my parents. (Note: I have not learned anything new, I've known this since my junior year in high-school (5 years ago!) - I just was so busy REACTING to other people and not acting like I wanted to that I couldn't show them that I was right!) ----------------------------------|++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | "He divines remedies against injuries; | "Words are drugs." | | he knows how to turn serious accidents | -Antero Alli | | to his own advantage; whatever does not | | | kill him makes him stronger." | "Culture is for bacteria." | | - Friedrich Nietzsche | - Christopher Hyatt | -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-