Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!kth.se!sunic!mcsun!ukc!warwick!nott-cs!ucl-cs!news From: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Gordon Joly) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: THE I OF THE BEHOLDER (and Solipsism) Message-ID: <1630@ucl-cs.uucp> Date: 17 Jun 91 09:39:59 GMT Sender: news@cs.ucl.ac.uk Lines: 25 Marvin Minsky writes: > Now I understand better what McDermott meant. > > I think I also understand better what Smoliar meant. I rather liked > his use of the term "solipsism" to make a nice point about objective > truth being largely (or entirely) unavailable, so that our "knowledge" > is always to some degree really, only "belief" and that belief itself > is not ever clearly about "things" but is an internal repationship > between the person's "self-fulfilling hallucination conspiracy", as > McDermott put it, and other parts of that person's representational > data structures. "I believe X" means, in that interpretation, > something sort of like "the imaginary person-self S that is me has > stored an X expression in the (imaginary) part of S's memory that is > used for expressions that are not to be easily changed." A mere imagined hurricane in teacup. Gordon. ____ Gordon Joly +44 71 387 7050 ext 3716 Internet: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk UUCP: ...!{uunet,ukc}!ucl-cs!G.Joly Computer Science, University College London, Gower Street, LONDON WC1E 6BT Order is paramount in anarchy.