Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!csri.toronto.edu!me Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy From: me@csri.toronto.edu (Daniel R. Simon) Subject: Re: If it does not pass TT it is not intelligent???? Message-ID: <1991Jun18.110450.24630@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Keywords: TT, intelligence Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto References: <1991Jun17.064232.2536@panix.uucp> Date: 18 Jun 91 15:04:50 GMT Lines: 17 In article <1991Jun17.064232.2536@panix.uucp> yanek@panix.uucp (Yanek Martinson) writes: >Performance of a system on TT shows how human that is, but not neccessarily >how intelligent. For example if some martians arrive and somehow learn >our language, they most likely can not pass the TT since they would be >most likely very different from humans and possible to distinguish. Would >that mean they are less intelligent? Or that they are not intelligent at all? >Is there any other, more objective test that tests for intelligence, not >for similarity to human beings? A similar problem arises with regard to rocks, all of which (beyond a certain size, at least) are in fact prodigiously intelligent, yet, because of their extreme natural lethargy, invariably easily distinguishable from humans in a "Turing Test" setting. "There *is* confusion worse than death" Daniel R. Simon -Tennyson (me@theory.toronto.edu)