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From: jbaxter@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Jon Baxter)
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Subject: Re: If it does not pass TT it is not intelligent????
Keywords: TT, intelligence
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Date: 19 Jun 91 03:32:11 GMT
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In article <1991Jun18.220932.22904@news.media.mit.edu>
minsky@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes:

> Please, Turing never meant the TT to be Necessary for people to
> recognize something as intelligent.  It was only intended to be a
> Sufficient condition.  And it was not to define intelligence, but only
> to propose a situation in which non-critical people would usually agree.

Then what use is the Turing test? Sufficiently non-critical people think
that Eliza is intelligent, but anyone with computing knowledge would disagree.
Did Turing really mean for the people in his test to be non-critical?

Jon Baxter.