Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!umich!sharkey!tygra!dave From: dave@tygra.Michigan.COM (David Conrad) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: If it does not pass TT it is not intelligent???? Keywords: TT, intelligence Message-ID: <1991Jun19.111622.5491@tygra.Michigan.COM> Date: 19 Jun 91 11:16:22 GMT References: <1991Jun17.064232.2536@panix.uucp> Organization: CAT-TALK Conferencing System, Detroit, MI Lines: 27 In article <1991Jun17.064232.2536@panix.uucp> yanek@panix.uucp (Yanek Martinson) writes: >Performance of a system on TT shows how human that is, but not neccessarily >how intelligent. For example if some martians arrive and somehow learn >our language, they most likely can not pass the TT since they would be >most likely very different from humans and possible to distinguish. Would >that mean they are less intelligent? Or that they are not intelligent at all? >Is there any other, more objective test that tests for intelligence, not >for similarity to human beings? The Turing Test does not test for intelligence. At a literal level it tests for a specific ability, the ability to mimic human answers to questions, which we may hope requires at least some kind of 'intelligence'. But more importantly, it points out that physical form is not really an indicator of intelligence. Do you think that I am intelligent? It's probably safe to assume that you've never seen me. You don't know if I'm short, or tall, or a program running on a Cray Y-MP. The real point of the Turing Test is to demonstrate that we really consider behaviour more than form when judging intelligence. And that we should. David R. Conrad dave@michigan.com -- = CAT-TALK Conferencing Network, Computer Conferencing and File Archive = - 1-313-343-0800, 300/1200/2400/9600 baud, 8/N/1. New users use 'new' - = as a login id. AVAILABLE VIA PC-PURSUIT!!! (City code "MIDET") = E-MAIL Address: dave@Michigan.COM