Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!ubc-cs!alphonce From: alphonce@cs.ubc.ca (Carl Alphonce) Subject: Re: how many distinct thoughts can a person have? Message-ID: <1991Jun19.232912.17871@cs.ubc.ca> Sender: usenet@cs.ubc.ca (Usenet News) Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science, Vancouver, B.C., Canada References: <1991Jun19.033316.18773@athena.mit.edu> <314@trwacs.UUCP> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 19 Jun 91 23:29:12 GMT In article <314@trwacs.UUCP> erwin@trwacs.UUCP (Harry Erwin) writes: >mlevin@jade.tufts.edu writes: > > >> I was just reading Z. Pylyshin's "Computation and Cognition", and >>at one point, he states something like: "the number of distinct human >>thoughts is uncountable." Does anyone have any arguments for or >>against the idea that the number of possible distinct human thoughts >>(or mental states) is uncountably infinite? Note I do not mean >>"astronomicallly large" - I mean infinite (and perhaps uncountably so) >>in the strict mathematical sense. It seems plausible to me; does >>anyone have a good argument either way? > >The number of distinct human thoughts isn't even countably infinite >in a quantum-mechanical universe, let alone uncountable. However, >if we ignore that argument, the question boils down to whether the >state of the brain is sensitively dependent to its state on a >cauchy surface. I believe Paul Rapp has evidence that it is. So, >although the number isn't infinite, it looks like it's uncountable. > >-- >Harry Erwin >Internet: erwin@trwacs.fp.trw.com A minor point: if something is uncountable, it is infinite. In fact, finite < countable (countable infinite) < uncountable (uncoutably infinite) at least as far as I can recall from my logic / set theory courses.