Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:10568 comp.dcom.modems:10478 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!mp.cs.niu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Doug McDonald) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: 4.77MHz PC sufficient for 19200 bps modem? Message-ID: <1991Jun19.225328.20629@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 19 Jun 91 22:53:28 GMT References: <1155@isgtec.UUCP> <1991Jun18.201125.6198@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: usenet@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 55 In article <1155@isgtec.UUCP> ted@isgtec.uucp (Ted Richards) writes: >In article <1991Jun18.201125.6198@cs.cmu.edu> jch+@cs.cmu.edu (Jonathan Hardwick) writes: >> Question for the net: >> >> A housemate has an original Big Blue IBM PC, running at the blazing >> speed of 4.77MHz. We want to use this as a dumb terminal to access >> our university workstations. The university offers 2400 bps service >> with MNP level 5, and a 9600 bps or 19200 bps MCN service using DOV >> modems. We'd really like the extra speed if possible. Is the PC >> going to be able to keep up with 19200 bps? How about 9600 bps? > >I have some bad news for you. I have one of these geriatric beasts, >too, and it doesn't even come close to keeping up at 9600 baud. The >problem is in the screen updates, not the comms port, which manages file >transfers at almost full speed (~ 860-920 cps). > >The speed varies depending on the comms programm. I have tried Procomm, >Telix and two varieties of MS_kermit. Telix is really awful >(unfortunate, because I like the programm a lot). Even with Telix doing >its own screen updates (the fastest mode), it fills the screen at >perhaps 300 cps when scrolling, somewhat better when clearing the screen >first. The latest Kermit is not much better. Procomm was, I think, a >little faster, but I tried it a year ago, so I don't remember exactly. > >The best performance, perhaps 500-600 cps, comes from a very old copy of >Kermit, dated 1982 or 1983 that I found lying around on an old diskette. > >Perhaps someone else has found another comms program that can keep up? > >By the way, I am using a Telbit T1000 on my end, talking to a T2500 (at >9600 baud) at work. > >> Oh, and if the PC *can't* keep up, what sort of motherboard upgrade >> would we need? 10 MHz 8086? 80286? > >Can't help you here, since I haven't done anything about it (I'm saving >up for a 386-25, myself). > >-- A plain PC at 4.77 MHz can EASILY keep up with 19200 baud including output to the screen. You just have to have an EGA card or higher (or maybe a CGA or mono, I've never tried). You do it by scrolling NOT by actually moving characters around in video memory, but by setting up a double-length video buffer (twice the length of the screen) and keeping TWO copies of your text in it in double-circular-buffer mode. You then just move the start-of-memory pointer on the video card to scroll. And, amazingly enough, on my 386 this works fine up to 9600 baud **in graphics mode**!!!! Doug McDonald