Newsgroups: comp.fonts Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!world!kibo From: kibo@world.std.com (James 'Kibo' Parry) Subject: Re: Is Helios in the Public Domain? Message-ID: <1991Jun19.041036.26068@world.std.com> Organization: Kibo's Home Office (in Boston's Back Bay) References: <1991Jun19.010626.14727@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1991 04:10:36 GMT Lines: 44 In article <1991Jun19.010626.14727@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> George.Bray@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (George Bray) writes: >I'm working on a project that represents papers on-screen and require >clear display fonts for the Macintosh. > >Helios seems to be a 'standard' but I'm not sure if I have to license it. Helios [if you mean the one I think you mean] is Compugraphic's version of Helvetica. Both Helios and Helvetica are trademarked names and are sold as commercial fonts. However, for the Mac bitmap fonts, sometimes you're allowed to distribute the bitmaps (but not the printer font file, which contains the outlines of the characters.) Adobe lets people get their Mac screen fonts for free [although I believe you have to let them know if you want to distribute their screen fonts with your application--I'm sure someone from adobe.com will fill us in]; I don't know about Compugraphic. >Are there any other good 'screen' fonts? What's wrong with Geneva, Courier, Monaco, Chicago, New York, etc.? (I assume they come with Australian Macs like they do with most others.) Geneva is a good on-screen substitute for Helvetica/Helios/Univers/etc. fonts at up to 24pt, and you can be sure it's installed on any Macintosh [unless your System is very different from the U.S. one, which won't let users remove 9pt and 12pt Geneva. Similarly, New York [which is modeled on ITC Garamond Light Condensed] makes a good on-screen substitute for most serif fonts, particularly narrow ones like Times-Roman. I think the fonts people are most likely to have, other than the ones that come with the computer, are the Adobe screen fonts for the basic LaserWriter Plus set (Palatino, New Century Schoolbook, ITC Avant Garde Gothic, ITC Zapf Chancery, ITC Zapf Dingbats, etc.) You can get Adobe screen bitmap packages from Adobe's file server; send a message with the text "help" to ps-file-server@adobe.com for basic instructions. -- James Parry -- ............................................................................. James "Kibo" Parry kibo@world.std.com Independent graphic designer 271 Dartmouth St. #3D, Boston, MA 02116 specializing in logo and (617) 262-3922 typeface design.