Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!ucbvax!VTVM1.BITNET!USDGOG From: USDGOG@VTVM1.BITNET (Greg Granger) Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula2 Subject: Re: TopSpeed 3.0 First Impressions Message-ID: Date: 21 Jun 91 00:33:07 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Modula2 List Organization: The Internet Lines: 36 On Thu, 20 Jun 91 16:11:20 GMT Tom Almy said: >... >I compared the Top Speed Modula-2 with C. I wrote a program that wrote >10000 copies of "This is a test of writing speed" to the display. The result: >... Thanks, makes me feel a little better about JPI's M2 product. BTW, I think printf/WrStr isn't an unfair comparison considering the 'common' use for each. Which reminds me of something in JPI's Comm Toolbox manual. The writer of the manual (clearly a die-hard C programmer) couldn't understand why "the Modula-2 community attached itself to an awkward set of I/O procedures, largely ignoring the solutions for similar problems already found in C." So this person wrote a kludgy Printf in M2. Considering this is the type of person JPI hires to write their toolboxes I guess we are lucky they didn't 'improve' M2 by replacing all those awkward IMPORTS/Def files with some nice %INCLUDE/.h files. I guess this list has spoiled me, I just can't imagine that the world is so short on M2 programmers that a compiler company can't find one to support there flagship product (ooopps, according to here latest marketing noise, ONE of there flagship products, (BTW, how many flagships can you have?)) Sigh, sorry I just kind'a "went off" ... >... >I'm going to check the crashing graphics code on another machine, and if >it fails give JPI a call. If this doesn't pan out, I'll remove the whole >mess from my system and just use version 1 -- it worked! >... Yes, I know what you mean, version 1.x still looks real good compared to later versions. Sometimes I wonder if JPI is advancing or ... A least they make a nice YACC (!!! Yet Another C Compiler !!! :-) (bet I woke some Unix hacks up with that last one ;-) Greg