Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!uwm.edu!linac!att!princeton!phoenix.Princeton.EDU!eliot From: eliot@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Eliot Handelman) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Why No one Cares what S. Page Does (was Re: WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS NEWSGROUP?) Message-ID: <10816@idunno.Princeton.EDU> Date: 16 Jun 91 21:32:32 GMT References: <9106150215.AA13482@lilac.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@idunno.Princeton.EDU Organization: Cognitive Science Lab, Princeton U. Lines: 52 Nntp-Posting-Host: phoenix.princeton.edu In article <9106150215.AA13482@lilac.berkeley.edu> ISSSSM@NUSVM.BITNET (Stephen Smoliar) writes: ; ;Eliot approaches with a sinister look in his eye. Yes. Let's back up a bit to Stephen Pope's posting a while ago, requesting responses to a planned CMJ editorial (which I don't think appeared this month -- but then I don't read CMJ very carefully). Pope briefly, in his own way, expressed some concern over his perception that computer music, as "an art form," is in trouble. Of course art form qua art form has been in trouble -- in fact has been dead, completely devitalized, completely without interest -- for arguably 20 years; arguably 70 years; arguably longer, but not arguably inarguable. In particular, what happens in "computer music" is of no interest --- insofar as music is NOT considered, in the first place, NOT as an impetus for research, NOR as an expression of technology, BUT as a vehicle which merely ASSISTS in the legitimization of technology and NOTHING more. What I mean is that music is fundamentally of no interest right now. It is not an ascendant art: what music's had to do and say, its various modes of existence, its acheivements and non-acheivements all belong elsewhere, not within the framework of accelerated consciousness. Music is time-consuming, repetitious, formalistic, non-visual, non-informative, linear, unimmediate, and uncomfortably entrenched in a lutheran work-ethic that belies its own marginality. Music is now nothing more than a metaphor of its own inadequacies. Music is finished and how has to become something else altogether that is non- formalistic, not time-consuming, not repetitious, an instrument of information, non-linear, immediate, technological, and insurmountably distanced from every claim to non-functionality, to every last glimmer of legitimizing aesthetic. It makes no sense to think about "computer music," or "technology and music," or "artificial intelligence and music," (or "music and cognition") or "composers and theorists." There are only "computers," "cognition," "theorists." Music is either grounds for the happy amateur exchange of synthesizer patches and on a larger scale the exploitation of certain increasingly dull media interactions. There is no pure subject attached to "music," no divestment of its own history. This article may not be reproduced other than on USENET or for private use without the author's direct consent. -Handelman -CSL -PU -NJ