Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!bagate!dsinc!widener!news.cs.indiana.edu!att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!wotan!moxie!texsun!geraldo.Central.Sun.COM!cronkite!male!newstop!sun!amdahl!tetons!bdg From: bdg@idaho.amdahl.com (Blaine Gaither) Newsgroups: comp.org.acm Subject: Re: Communications Message-ID: Date: 19 Jun 91 15:39:23 GMT References: <794@seqp4.UUCP> <1991Jun16.160625.27644@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> Sender: usenet@tetons.idaho.amdahl.com Distribution: usa Organization: Amdahl Corp., Rexburg, ID. Lines: 33 In-reply-to: rschwart@paul.rutgers.edu's message of 17 Jun 91 15:45:50 GMT Bob Schwartz >It is embarassing, in this age of desktop publishing and increased >general interest and awareness of document design, to see ACM's >flagship publication go off the deed end. It reinforces the >stereotype that most computer folks can't be trusted to have good >design sense (except for code). It is clear to me that there are esentially no computer folks at ACM HQ. These are "trained professionals" in publishing. In general they have no idea of the meaning the technical content of most published papers. THIS IS NOT BAD IN ITSELF, but remember they is not a group of volunteer sig folkes. In general we have the same problems with moving HQ that the presidents/governors have in trying to redirect large Civil service orgs. The problem is that SOME of the ACM HQ folks I have talked with seem to think we (the members) are children. They act as if we are not capable of holding valid opinions on publication format, or for that mater, society management or budgeting. Should we just lay back and pay more dues to pay for more staff overhead? Blaine -- Blaine Gaither Amdahl Corporation 143 No. 2nd East St., Rexburg, Idaho 83440-1619 UUCP:{ames,decwrl,sun,uunet}!amdahl!tetons!bdg (208) 356-8915 INTERNET: bdg@idaho.amdahl.com