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From: jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Is there an equivalent of "The Anarchist Cookbook" in Cyberspace?
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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1991 02:05:39 GMT




In answer to your subject: line question, yes.  An of the following
are equiv:

Any degree in MIS,
A CS undergraduate degree from any number of universities,
IBM AIX 3.? on-line documentation or SMIT.


In article <1991Jun16.202928.21626@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle (Sun Software)) writes:
>used to perform illegal/immoral/unethical acts, and actually *using* that same
>information to perform said illegal/immoral/unethical act.  Is that a correct
>recollection?

Yep.

>Finally, how does this relate to something like "The Anarchist Cookbook"?
>Is the original poster culpable for publishing such information, in the
>sense that the "The Anarchist Cookbook" was originally held culpable for also
>publishing information?

Maybe, maybe not.  There's no real record of people getting tossed
in jail for publishing dangerous material (there have been attempts
at prior restraint, including the plans for an atomic bomb).

Rather extreme books have been published, however.

There was (is?) a book called _Steal This Book_, later retitled
_The "Steal Yourself Rich" Book_, by the late Abbie Hoffman (written
in the Cook County Jail, 1970).  Where "Anarchist Cookbook" is juvenile,
maybe-it'll-work fantasy, STB is full of information related to living
underground, based on Hoffman's personal experiences.  It's three main
topics are "Survive!", "Fight!", and "Liberate!".  The information is
good  (including the forign-coin/american coin conversions, advice
on shoplifting, etc) if a bit outdated.

It only had one major problem.  It's original title, _Steal This Book_,
was taken very literally, so the publishers (forced by bookstores)
had it changed.  I can find no evidence of an attempt by law enforcement
to ever ban its publication.  Surprising, since it describes great
ways to "fuck with the pigs"...

>Lastly, if (e.g.) Frame Technologies determined the original poster's identity
>and determined their employer, would they be justified in demanding that the

Justified is a moral term, not a legal one.  Companies yell and
scream at one another (and even sue) all of the time.  I've gotten
more than one nasty letter from a company regarding things I've said
about them in public forums.  It's usually just along the lines of
"Better watch it, or we'll come and get you."

>Or justified in demanding damages from the original poster's 
>employer?

Good question.  I'm no lawyer (thank earth), but it would seem it
would be easier to get moeny from the poster than from the poster's
employer.


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