Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bellcore!epic!karn From: karn@epic.bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Should we let students run COPS to get each other's passwords? Message-ID: <1991Jun18.055812.29986@bellcore.bellcore.com> Date: 18 Jun 91 05:58:12 GMT References: <1991Jun13.042534.16952@athena.cs.uga.edu> <50445@ut-emx.uucp> <1991Jun13.152800.28492@athena.cs.uga.edu> <1991Jun18.050402.19338@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@bellcore.bellcore.com (Poster of News) Reply-To: karn@thumper.bellcore.com Organization: Packet Communications Research Group (Bellcore) Lines: 15 In article <1991Jun18.050402.19338@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gsh7w@astsun7.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes: |> Michael A. Covington writes: |> #Honest people do not go around picking the locks on people's houses or |> #cars, not even "to test security." I see no reason why the ethics of |> #computers should be any different. |> |> Richard Feinmann did. He certainly did -- except that he went after office safes at Los Alamos during the Manhattan project. He relates quite clearly in his book "Surely You're Joking Mr. Feynmann" what happened when he tried to report his safecracking successes to the powers that be so that something could be done to tighten security. Phil