Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rice!news From: wruss00@ricevm1.rice.edu (William R. Russell, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Public Access Sites -- concerns, problems, and precedents Keywords: feynman Message-ID: <1991Jun19.145311.28713@rice.edu> Date: 19 Jun 91 14:53:11 GMT Sender: news@rice.edu (News) Distribution: na Organization: Rice University Lines: 49 In article <1399@zinn.MV.COM> mem@zinn.MV.COM (Mark E. Mallett) writes: ... >Richard Feynman ("surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman!") told many >stories of his mischeivous nature. In one, while at Los Alamos, he >made it a habit to surrepticiously steal combinations to all of the >locked files, safes, and so forth, during the atom bomb project. If >that were now, and he told the story, would he remain a free man? > >-mm- As a side note here, Richard Feynman *only* used that knowledge when he was asked. Typically, some scientist would be away on vacation, and they would come running to Feynman and ask something like "Help! We need the calculations for the oscillation overthruster from Harvey's office!". Feynman would then go into his office to get his "tools" (i.e. look up the combination which he noticed Harvey use a month before), return to Harvey's office, sit there for a while and drink coffee (with the door closed), then come out an hour later with the safe/file/desk unlocked. (Actually, in retrospect, Feynman did use his abilities to play a joke once... but hardly anything serious. In that case, he didn't even steal the combination beforehand, he just guessed it, right off the top of his head. Of course, these are in Feynman's own words, so who knows if he actually was a spy... bwahaha.) Anyway, the *point* of all this is that Feynman didn't break the law. He didn't steal anything, and he didn't copy anything and give it to foreign agents. Granted, if he were working on a government project today and claimed to know all of the passwords for a certain computer system, he would probably be reprimanded. But imprisoned? What law has been broken? (Granted, I wouldn't put it past the government to imprison someone based on means alone, excluding motive or opportunity.) It comes to the same old argument: can you convict someone for possession of the lockpick, even if they don't commit burglarly? Is it ethical to make lockpick possession illegal? >-- >Mark E. Mallett Zinn Computer Co/ PO Box 4188/ Manchester NH/ 03103 >Bus. Phone: 603 645 5069 Home: 603 424 8129 BIX: mmallett >uucp: mem@zinn.MV.COM ( ...{decvax|elrond|harvard}!zinn!mem ) >Northern MA and Southern NH consultants: Ask (in mail!) about MV.COM Rick Russell wruss00@ricevm1.rice.edu The opinions expressed here are exclusively my own.