Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!romp!auschs!awdprime!testsys.austin.ibm.com!mbrown From: mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com (Mark Brown) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Student suspended for distributing /etc/passwd Message-ID: <8589@awdprime.UUCP> Date: 19 Jun 91 14:52:21 GMT References: <1991Jun19.000845.15308@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <0aNq42w164w@cellar.UUCP> <1991Jun18.165528.19569@athena.cs.uga.edu> Sender: news@awdprime.UUCP Reply-To: mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com (Mark Brown) Lines: 22 gl8f@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes: > o Why should students without evil intent be restricted? Why should a sysadmin have to go around determining "intent" in the first place? Why shouldn't the student be forced to get permission *first*, before trying to compromise a system others use? > o Why are some sysadmins slow to close obvious security holes? What is *obvious*? To whom? Why are some users eager to abuse security holes? What else do sysadmins do for a living? DISCLAIMER: My views may be, and often are, independent of IBM official policy. Mark Brown IBM PSP Austin, TX. | Crazed Philosophy Student (512) 823-3741 VNET: MBROWN@AUSVMQ | Kills 15 In Existential Rage! MAIL: mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com | --tabloid headline