Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rphroy!cfctech!teemc!ka3ovk!barn!hoptoad!fidogate!f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG!jerry.andrews From: jerry.andrews@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (jerry andrews) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: stealing passwords is easy! Message-ID: <15353.2859BAFD@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG> Date: 14 Jun 91 08:25:03 GMT Sender: ufgate@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26) Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/111 - Fido Software, San Francisco CA Lines: 27 All your points are well-taken; I'd like to add one sysop's experience, though. I've been running computer-based conversations systems since 1979. The first was a grafiti (sic) file on a campus mainframe, and that was followed by several systems until I settled on a TBBS system in 1983. I've been with TBBS ever since. I have always required registration. I have never (not once) had an abuse severe enough to require locking out a user. It seems that the simple process of filling out the registration form is enough to discourage most malicious users. TBBS's security is tough enough that crashing and cracking haven't been a problem, and the occasional abusive message I can usually handle with a single message in private. In the period from about '83 to about '86, I did notice a lot more attempts to crash my board. Thanks to the robust nature of the software, I don't think it was ever done (though the board did crash for sometimes unexplained reasons). That has settled down a lot. Be well. -- jerry andrews - via FidoNet node 1:125/777 UUCP: ...!uunet!hoptoad!fidogate!111!jerry.andrews INTERNET: jerry.andrews@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG