Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!stanford.edu!unix!ctnews!risky!pase70!scottl From: scottl@convergent.com (Scott Lurndal) Newsgroups: comp.os.misc Subject: Re: UNIX vs. the world (again) (was: Compilation listing from Sun ...) Message-ID: <5698@risky.Convergent.COM> Date: 20 Jun 91 22:20:42 GMT References: <1991Jun15.143436.5574@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <25791@lanl.gov> Sender: root@risky.Convergent.COM Reply-To: scottl@convergent.com (Scott Lurndal) Organization: Unisys Network Computing Group Lines: 26 In article , peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes: |> In article <25791@lanl.gov> jlg@cochiti.lanl.gov (Jim Giles) writes: |> > Nope. That's an after effect. The _reason_ UNIX became popular was for |> > no _technical_ advantage at all. It became popular because, at a critical |> > time in the 70's, it was _free_ and _open_ and avalable on the _cheapest_ |> > useful hardware: PDP-8/11 and VAXen. |> |> Jim, you don't help your argument by making major technical blunders. UNIX |> has never run on a PDP-8. It ran on the PDP-11, and the earliest ports were |> actually to other 16-bit minicomputers like the Interdata. The VAX at that |> time was *not* a cheap machine. |> Truth, as the VAX didn't exist when UNIX was developed (except as a gleem in Ken Olson's eye). To quote the BSTJ, Vol 57, No 6, Part 2: pp 1899: The UNIX story begins with Ken Thompson's work on a cast-off PDP-7 minicomputer in 1969. [...] pp 1900: Until mid-1977, the UNIX operating system and its variants ran only on computers of the Digital Equipment Corporation PDP-11 family. In an interesting exercise in portability, Johnson and Richie exploited the machine-independence [really! -ed] of C to move the operating system and the bulk of its software to a quite different Interdata machine.