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From: nbvs@cl.cam.ac.uk (Nicko van Someren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Apple (was Re: Future Acorn products)
Message-ID: <1991Jun18.124801.26668@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: 18 Jun 91 12:48:01 GMT
References: <FLIMM.91May31123509@vax.thp.uni-koeln.de> <8106@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <t891368.677129018@otto> <1991Jun18.015452.15928@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
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In article <1991Jun18.015452.15928@comp.vuw.ac.nz> gavin@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower) writes:
>
>|>?? >>I think Apple would go for the RS/6000 instead of the ARM for performace
>|>?? >>reasons, but why would they ever have wanted to do anything with
>ARM Ltd in
>|>?? >>the first place?
>...........bits ommitted.....
>|> Mark
>|> mark@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
>bject: Re: Apple (was Re: Future Acorn products)
>Keywords: 
>
>**************====> I never wrote the bits marked with "??" 
><====****************
>
>The closest I came, was to say I was curious as to why Acorn and Apple
>got together to form ARM Ltd!  I wish people would be more carful how
>they quote things.  I did not comment the first time this happened,
>because I did not want to seem picky, BUT this 'endless' missquoting of
>me is a bit too much.
>
>-Gavin.

I think you will find that noone ever said that you did.  Tiggr said it and 
then he got quoted quoting you and then putting his comments on the end,
except that what he quoted from you was missed out.

Here is where he quoted you:

   Article 1518 of comp.sys.acorn:
   >From: rcpieter@wsinfo11.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr)
   Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
   Subject: Apple (was Re: Future Acorn products)
   Date: 12 Jun 91 19:05:15 GMT
   Sender: news@svin02.info.win.tue.nl

   Gavin.Flower@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower) writes:

   >I must admit to find it curious to see a strategic link between Acorn
   >and Apple, via ARM Ltd, when the Apple Mac and Archimedes are directly
   >competing in the educational market.

   ...

   I think Apple would go for the RS/6000 instead of the ARM for performace
   reasons, but why would they ever have wanted to do anything with ARM Ltd in
   the first place?

   Tiggr
    
Then came this item from Evan Torrie:

   Article 1528 of comp.sys.acorn:
   From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
   Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
   Subject: Re: Apple (was Re: Future Acorn products)
   Date: 12 Jun 91 23:52:56 GMT
   Sender: torrie@neon.Stanford.EDU (Evan James Torrie)

   rcpieter@wsinfo11.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) writes:

   >Gavin.Flower@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower) writes:

   >I think Apple would go for the RS/6000 instead of the ARM for performace
   >reasons, but why would they ever have wanted to do anything with ARM Ltd in
   >the first place?

   ...

Note that there is only one set of arrows, so it says that tiggr wrote that you
wrote something and then he wrote the junk at the end.
The problems then happened with this item from Mark:

   Article 1544 of comp.sys.acorn:
   From: t891368@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (Mark)
   Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
   Subject: Re: Apple (was Re: Future Acorn products)
   Date: 17 Jun 91 03:23:38 GMT

   >>Gavin.Flower@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Gavin Flower) writes:
   >>I think Apple would go for the RS/6000 instead of the ARM for performace
   >>reasons, but why would they ever have wanted to do anything with ARM Ltd in
   >>the first place?

   ...

Note that although this looks like it says Gavin is saying this infact the
indentation of the 'Gavin writes:' line and the quote are the same so the
quote is from whoever wrote the line 'Gavin writes:' not from Gavin.

It looks like people should be a bit more careful about the quotes they include
in there items.

Nicko


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