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From: matija@amiga.ifi.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: De-macification of the Amiga (Re: The Amiga's Future)
Summary: An overview of Drag-and-drop
Keywords: Drag-and-drop, basic ideas
Message-ID: <1991Jun18.163422.26170@ifi.unizh.ch>
Date: 18 Jun 91 16:34:22 GMT
References: <1991Jun10.071908.8353@neon.Stanford.EDU> <1991Jun15.180607.10502@sugar.hackercorp.com> <1991Jun16.214309.18102@news.iastate.edu>
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In article <1991Jun16.214309.18102@news.iastate.edu> taab5@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>In article <1991Jun15.180607.10502@sugar.hackercorp.com>, peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>In article <1991Jun10.071908.8353@neon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
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>>Oh, that's right. Apple did add some negative value to the Star concept,
>>like double-clicking instead of drag-and-drop, the one-button mouse, and
>>pull-down menus. One thing I was hoping that 2.0 would support was a
>>de-Macification of the workbench: pop-up menus and drag-and-drop application
>>launching would be a vast improvement. I guess you could add popup menus
>>with a SetFunction, but how about Drag-and-drop?
>
>   I don't really understand the value of "drag-and-drop".  Amiga users
>often complain about how, on the MAC, you have to drag the disk icon to
>the trashcan in order to get your disk out of the drive.  It would seem
>to me that drag-and-drop would be the same hinderance, but with respect
>to launching applications.  

To Peter:
  You are stating that doubleclick is a loss of the original idea of 
drag-and-drop. I am of the oppinion tha this was an elegant NEW approach
of 'how to start an application' and the pull-down menu was a so _good_
approach, that almost evry new computer implements it.
(Never heard of PopUpMenu for pop-up meuns on the WB)

To Marc:
  I will summarize the basic ideas of Drag-and-drop:
The idea of the icons and workbench is replacing the 'desk you are working on':
On the desk you can pick whatever is there and start working. You _see_ 
a sheet of paper and you can use it for writing, painting, etc..
In real life if you wish to write a letter you just pick the paper and drop
it in the printer, or take your favorite cd and put it in the drive, etc.. 
  Now immagine a situation where you see an icon of a document and you start
editing it. After you did this you spot another icon (with another document)
on your open drawer and you wish to work on it.
Usually you get your file requester, get a list of 'strange' names and wonder 
where the document is you just saw. Wouldn't it be nice you could drop it
directly on your application (open or closed).
 The point is: why have to change your taughts finding out where the file is,
if you just have it under your nose? No, if you can drag an icon and drop it 
on another icon you think is appropriate is the really big improvement.

To both:
  As for the strting an application, you have now two ways
  - doubleclick on your project
  - shift click on the project and your application
With drag-and-drop you have a new method
  - drag your project on your application

Free choise for evrybody...


>>Peter da Silva.   `-_-'   <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
> / Marc Barrett  -MB- | BITNET:   XGR39@ISUVAX.BITNET        /   

Bye
 Matija



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