Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!tellab5!laidbak!amiganet!arctngnt From: arctngnt@amiganet.chi.il.us (Bowie J Poag) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc Subject: Re: CDVT and CD-I Message-ID: Date: 18 Jun 91 01:13:10 GMT References: <7284@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems Lines: 85 >In article arctngnt@amiganet.chi.il.us (Bowi >e J Poag) writes: >| >| Again, this is the reason why CD-I will beat out CDTV in the home-based >| multimedia race.. CD-I is supported, CDTV is not. > >It IS? Show me a CD-I machine and the software for it. I don't see any >at my local Sears or Montgomery Wards. I have yet, in fact, seen ANY >CD-I machine outside of prototypes at trade shows. > >Where do you think a lot of the early CDTV software has come from? It >was from CD-I developers who have as of yet to make any money on their >efforts. CDTV provided them a means to finally make some money on >their work. Phillips has been promising CD-I for the last 6 years. SIX >YEARS. Almost as long as the Amiga has been on the market. Show me a >single CD-I unit I can go down to my store and buy and I'll take your >point in stride. Otherwise it's quite obvious you don't know what the >bloody hell you're talking about. > >Laurana > >-- >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ >|Just another lemming... | Yet another Amiga maniac set loose | >| | on the world...and you thought things| >|lmbailey@vela.acs.oakland.edu | couldn't get any worse. | Laurana: Im going to take your name down, and contact you in a year, then you can epxlain to ME why CDTV failed, why Commodore was completely sluggish in advertising it, why CD-I is supported by >4< companies, and CDTV, oh a whopping >1< company that even still is on the edge of going bankrupt if they continue to avoid marketing. You dont set up a lemonade stand, and expect business without putting up a few signs in the neighborhood. And for you, it seems, youre caught up in the hysteria. You think CDTV is impressive. So do I. BUT, the fact remains, that CD-I will come out ontop, because Commodore has tooooooo many flaws in their marketing strategy. It will die, and die quick. Id like to think in my mind that CDTV will be a huge success. Stop dreaming, it wont happen. Can also look at it this way...CD-I is getting MORE publicity of a product that dosent exist, meanwhile, dinky Commodore with their Dinky marketing campaign expects to kill off a giant like Phillips, Sony, ect. Think again. LOGIC, my friend.. LOGIC. It just WONT WORK. What makes you think that Commodore will push CDTV >>>MORE<<< than its pushing the Amiga? Hell, I havent seen an ad for the Amiga in over 6 months, and at that, it was some stupid Wally's Business Week newspaper. Explain to me why Commodore has had more PR companies come and go, much less PRESIDENTS OF THE COMPANY run through the famous "revolving door of Commodore Business Machines, Inc." as Forbes magazine so eloquently put it. Oh-boy, remember 2 years ago? Everyone was expecting some huge change in COmmdore when they announced a $15,000,000 advertising campaign to start on the night of the World Series, and stretch until Christmas. Well gee, what did we see... The night of the World Series, California about fell into the ocean. There goes the premier ad......So what did we see after that? Some sniveler named "Stevie" playing of all things, GAMES....REAFFIRMING THE PUBLICS BELIEF THAT THE AMIGA IS A GAME MACHINE...Gee, lucky us. That about pushed the progress of the Amiga back about 4 years. I expected something wonderful. Not a prepubescent weenie plucking a keyboard in the middle of a slight simulator. Duh. The advertising campaign of 2 years ago, in my eyes, did more harm than good. Its like jumping off a diving board, and landing face first.. you wont go near it, until you gather up enough courage to do it again.. You get back up Ln the board, and kill yourself on the next try. Youre not going to see advertising out of CBM anytime soon. Hell, I see more ads from car dealerships on TV >IN ONE DAY< than ive seen out of CBM in the past 4 years. Think on THAT.. Then tell me who has their head in the clouds. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Flicker turns me on. -BJP | Get back into the SeX PiSToLs if you program in Arctangent, Naperville IL. | C. It helps. // ---------------------------- \X/ A M I G A ! \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/