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From: philip@cel.cummins.com (Philip D. Pokorny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: DSEE 4.0 documentation...
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Date: 18 Jun 91 14:44:20 GMT
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John Tompson writes:
>  We recently recieved our DSEE 4.0 upgrade, with a new graphical interface (X),
>  heterogeneous building and debugging, concurrent builds in a heterogeneous
>  environment, new distinctions for build rules (prism_elements), reference paths,
>  split pools, auto-retry on builds, builder lists, proper $SHELL variable 
>  use, etc. etc. etc.  In short, a neat new toy to play with.
>  
>  We also received the new(?) documentation for DSEE.  The manual on "Getting 
>  Started With the Domain Software Engineering Environment (DSEE)" is from July
>  1988.  It's for rev 3.3, and except for an HP binder page, it appears to be
>  the same.  Oh well, maybe they don't want us to get started with the new
>  features.  Of course, the illustrations will be wrong, but....
>  
>  The manual on "Using the Domain Software Engineering Environment (DSEE)" is
>  indeed from April, 1991.  It seems to be for DSEE 4.0, and although I haven't
>  done more than scan it, it seems to be correct.
>  
>  The "Domain Software Engineering Environment (DSEE) Command Reference" manual,
>  however, is from April, 1987.  Except for a new HP cover sheet, it is the 
>  same manual as the 3.3 version, which is the same as the version that
>  was in use on SR9.7 (and before?)!!!  It does not have any of the new features
>  documented;  it gives no help for doing anything new;  it doesn't even tell
>  you how to complain right!!!!  (It offers information on the 'crucr' program.)

I'm not sure what manuals you got, but they certainly don't
sound like the one's we got with our DSEE 4.0 upgrade...

Just for reference the order numbers from the manuals we have
are:
   Getting Started:               008788-A01
   Using DSEE:                    015798-A00
   DSEE Reference:                003016-A00

The getting started manual contains lots of pretty pictures of
the new interface, the reference manual has descriptions of the
new model directives (like host_type) so these would seem to
describe the new DSEE 4.0...  Perhaps someone made a mistake and
sent you the wrong manuals...  I'm *sure* someone at HP would be
happy to see you get the right manuals...

Sincerely,
Philip Pokorny
philip@cel.cummins.com
:)