Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!think.com!spool.mu.edu!uunet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!fuug!clinet!likos From: likos@clinet.fi (Johannis Likos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: How is Atari doing in Europe? Message-ID: <1991Jun17.190053.7342@clinet.fi> Date: 17 Jun 91 19:00:53 GMT References: <1991Jun14.010821.9903@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> <5360@syma.sussex.ac.uk> Organization: City Lines Oy, Helsinki, Finland Lines: 50 grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham S Thomas) writes: Z >From article <1991Jun14.010821.9903@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, by yegerleh@vivaldi.ecn.purdue.edu (James D Yegerlehner): >> I don't think Atari is making much of a splash over here (yet?) >> with the new STEs and TTs, but can any of you guys over in Europe >> say how the new machines are being received there? Is Atari >> maintaining the significant market share that it once had? >I'm fairly sure Atari's market share in the UK is declining. Most STs >here have been sold as games machines, and judging from the relative >amounts of software in the shops and the number and thickness of >magazines on the newsstands, the Amiga's winning hands down in that >arena. >Anything else has been niche marketing. The TT is more expensive here >than in some other countries, partly because Atari don't expect to sell >many. The Mega STE hasn't even been released here yet - it's just been >delayed even further until the beginning of July. >Atari are still selling a fair number of STFMs (still!) and STEs, and >the existing number of installed machines means that games and music >software will continue to be produced here, along with the occasional >non-games product. Also, Atari UK have started to advertise the ST as a >'serious' computer again. But, in my opinion, it's too little, too >late. The best is not yet to come. >Graham >-- >Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, U of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK >Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: .. 685865 __________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ Sorry, GUIs to dis-a-point you, but there is no future at all. Even in the biggest market (Germany) the software houses jump over to a faster train PC and Windows (see Borland, Technobox, etc.)... TT is not as powerful as IIfx or 486 (don't even think about NeXT)! Since 1985 ST & Amiga 'a fight between losers' (to be continued). Innovation and high tech is made by Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and others but not in Borregas Avenue... The old GDOS had only few driver... The new FSM-GDOS has not yet been released... ...but Adobe's Type Manager, Bitstream, True Type, etc. enjoy already the best critics as bestsellers in competitors' computer business community. It is really frustrating to support a TOS-based system for five year and to observe a very very slow progress (or degress?)... likos@clinet.fi