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From: chris@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Christian Finger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP-UX 8.0 and stty settings
Message-ID: <1991Jun19.150542.21611@ira.uka.de>
Date: 19 Jun 91 15:05:42 GMT
References: <1991Jun17.231236.25720@apd.mentorg.com>
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In article <1991Jun17.231236.25720@apd.mentorg.com>, pbrooks@mentorg.com
(Phil Brooks) writes:
|> 
|> I have recently installed HP-UX 8.0 on my 845 and the behavior of the 
|> stty inheritance seems to have changed.  They used to get set when I logged
|> in from /etc/profile (things like stty erase ^H).
|> 
|> Now, when I log in (terminal mode) the settings get set, but when I start
|> mwm up via x11start, the xterms and/or hpterms don't inherit any stty 
|> settings unless I use the -ls (act as a login shell).
|> 
|> This isn't consistent with other systems nor (it seems) with HP-UX 7.0.
|> I have asked around a little here and everyone says "Oh, I just changed
|> all of my menus and my .x11start file to use -ls".  This does not seem to
|> be the right answer to me.  It seems that everything should inherit nicely
|> from the initial shell.  
|> 
|> Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there a reasonable answer for why the
|> change was made?
|> 
|> To duplicate this, you can use the generic sys.x11start file and run 
|> x11start from the terminal mode.  stty settings present in the console
|> terminal session will be gone in the x11start session.
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Phil Brooks, Mentor Graphics Corporation 
|> (phil_brooks@mentorg.com)
|> 8005 SW Boeckman Road
|> Wilsonville, OR   97070-7777 (503) 685-1324

We had the same effect with HP-UX 8.01 on a s720.

The X windows terminal emulators try to get their tty settings from their
controlling terminal.  In X11R4 the behavior of xinit starting clients has
changed.  They are started without a controlling terminal.  In X11R3 the
terminal you started X windows from became controlling terminal.
Just take a look on the output of 'ps -ef' on HP-UX 7.x and HP-UX 8.x.
Using an old xinit is possible, but I wouldn't suggest it.

You'll have to set some resource strings (as mentioned in another posting).

Ciao

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