Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!dmac@athena.mit.edu From: dmac@athena.mit.edu (David S. McCormick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Smalltalk / V Message-ID: <1991Jun18.151545.23130@athena.mit.edu> Date: 18 Jun 91 15:15:45 GMT References: <43302@cup.portal.com> Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system) Organization: MIT-EAPS Geology Lines: 41 In article <43302@cup.portal.com>, Michael_I_Summers@cup.portal.com writes: > > To answer some of your questions: > > 1. Smalltalk/V is pretty much Smalltalk-80 from a syntax point of view. There > is a large difference in the classes implemented, and the window models are > not the same. > > 2. Smalltalk/V is going to have a new version this summer that will support > standalone app's (no royalties, etc...). The language is interpreted, and > slower than tightly coded assembler, but I've no complaints. > > 3. Smalltalk-80 from ParcPlace for the Mac is now $3,500 (US) with the advent > of release 4 (a major blunder IMHO). > > Once Digitalk unifies V Mac, V WIndows, and V PM to use the same window model > and classes it will be an excellent, portable, development system. I love PP > Smalltalk-80, but ouch that price! :( > > Mike > > The reason for the high price of Smalltalk-80 in which the source code that have a platform-independent Smalltalk for Mac, Openlook, Windows 3.0, and Motif. The exact same source code will supposedly compile without modification on the system-specific implementation of Smalltalk; all the GUI stuff will look correct for each machine. Obviously they are looking for the really big corporate developers who want a program to run on lots of OS's and generate lots-o-profit from the same kernal of source code. They have done a similar thing with their Objectworks\C++ development environment, but this has only been released for Sun-3 and SPARCstations, not for the Mac. In summary, Smalltalk from ParkPlace is a corporate product. Too bad. Cheers, David S. McCormick MIT-EAPS Geology Cambridge, MA 02139 dmac@athena.mit.edu 617-253-9852