Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-picayune.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!kth.se!sunic!dkuug!iesd!iesd.auc.dk!fischer From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars P. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: eiffel for the NeXT Message-ID: Date: 18 Jun 91 21:07:32 GMT References: <5900@uniol.UUCP> Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Aalborg Lines: 42 In-reply-to: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de's message of 18 Jun 91 10:32:21 GMT >>>>> On 18 Jun 91 10:32:21 GMT, >>>>> Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Gerhard Moeller) said: Gerhard> Does anyone know if there are efforts made to implement the Gerhard> 'eiffel' - Programming language on the NeXT? You might like to take a look at the Sather programming language available icsi-ftp.berkeley.edu (or gmdzi.gmd.de). Sather is a OOPL heavily influenced by Eifel (Sather is the name of a tower in the Berkeley area). Sather is available free of charge and comes with compiler, library, a GNU Emacs-based environment, and more. The Sather compiler generates C code so the system should be easy to port. It currently works with Sun-4 workstations. The Sather system is currently at a quite early stage in it's development, but is mature enough that the compiler can compile itself (ie. the Sather compiler is written in Sather). The language seems more intended for real programmers and less for language designers than Eiffel, and he price sure is right. Gerhard> And I also think that many NeXT users as well as programmers Gerhard> are sick of those pseudo OO-language hybrids C++ and O-C. Oh, no. Please, no my-language-is-more-OO-than-yours wars. Gerhard> (Even though there is hardly an alternative to it, as it's Gerhard> still Unix we're dealing with...) I see a great variety of OOPL's available for UNIX, possibly more than for any other platform. Gerhard> +-----------------------> the medium is the message <------------- Lot's of programming language designers would agree with you. Both languages and programmers suffer (:-). /Lars -- Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of CS Dept., Univ. of Aalborg, DENMARK. | these things. -- Calvin