Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pa.dec.com!e2big.mko.dec.com!engage!ootool.dec.com!tenny From: tenny@ootool.dec.com (Dave Tenny) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Please, where is my 68040 Allegro Common Lisp upgrade Message-ID: <1991Jun19.121755.27992@engage.pko.dec.com> Date: 19 Jun 91 13:07:02 GMT Sender: newsdaemon@engage.pko.dec.com (USENET News Daemon) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 33 One of the reasons I bought an "old" cube was because it came with ACL. I have no problem generally being patient. Even waiting many months for my upgrade wasn't that taxing. My system worked, everything was fine, the board would arrive when it arrived. But I *need* my ACL upgrade. I'm glad I didn't base my product on NeXT-ACL, or I'd have been up the creek. Still, I have a fair investment in Lisp code. And now that I have my 68040, I can't run ACL at all. I'm fairly sure I recall Franz Inc. announcing that they released the 68040 3.1 upgrade last April, yet when I call NeXT, they say they're not expecting to receive the ACL upgrade until July. My understanding was that Franz was releasing the 4.0 ACL release in July. This isn't part of the free upgrade, but is a $375 upgrade to their new version which supports native CLOS. So either I misunderstood the announcement of 3.1 68040 availability last April (or imagined it), or NeXT is confused. I may eventually shell out for the ACL 4.0 release. But it isn't what I need now. All I need is my basic 3.1 CLTL Common Lisp. And no, Kyoto Common Lisp is not an acceptable substitute. If the delay is on the part of Franz, Inc, this reflects poorly on them. If not, then it reflects poorly on NeXT. In general I've had largely positive experiences with Businessland and NeXT. But on this Lisp issue, my patience is wearing very thin. Please, where is my upgrade? Dave