Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!apple!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!stanford.edu!msi.umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!kas!rhealey From: rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey) Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga Subject: Re: Applications we'd like to see (Gang up on C=!) Message-ID: <225@kas.helios.mn.org> Date: 16 Jun 91 15:50:17 GMT References: <1289@creatures.cs.vt.edu> <457@netxcom.netx.com> Organization: Rob's home system, Hopkins, MN Lines: 61 Enter soap box mode: In article <457@netxcom.netx.com> logan@netxcom.netx.com (Jim Logan) writes: >In article tbissett@nstar.rn.com >(Travis Bissett) writes: ># sci and support, but maybe you no some facts tangential to this. What kinds ># of APPLICATIONS are actually runable on the A3000UX? I am specifically ># interested in engineering and CAD applications. OK, I know about Maple. Any ># others? > >Speaking of applications, I would love it it C= would write up a >contract with Insignia Systems so that they would port their Soft >PC product. That would be awesome under AMIX! > PC stuff, ICKY! B^). But it would SELL units! "Does it run PC software?" "Yup!" "Sold!" Sad but true fact of modern life... >Does anyone know if Informix will be ported to AMIX? How about >Oracle? How about Lotus 123? I think I heard that 123 runs >under UNIX now. I think Word Perfect runs under UNIX too. I >would buy them if they were out there... > Surprised C= marketing hasn't thought of this... You can sell ALOT more UX's by having NEEDED applications running under it. I.e. Most business people by applications, NOT computers. If Amiga UNIX ran 123, Oracle/Informix/Trendy-DB and Word Pregnant(ooops, I mean Word Perfect), you might actually be able to sell UX's by the truckload to businesses that want a networked solution for these Killer apps. Why do you think SPARCstations sell into business so well? Sun's charming personality? Hell no! SPARCs run the apps business people NEED/WANT. And it looks like NeXT caught the drift with their bundled software... C= marketing better wake up and smell the coffee PRONTO. They should STOP taking lessons from the AT&T school of marketing, and go for high volume of units at low cost rather than low volume of units at high cost. You sell high volume by running the applications Joe/Jane business user WANTS, not by being techically superior. How do you think a technologically bankrupt system like MS-DOS on a braindead Intel architecture sells billions $$$/year world wide? It ain't on good looks and talent babe, it's by having the apps people buy computers for. Applications sell the computer, not the other way around. So, to end my scolding of C= marketdroids. Get some REAL apps that businesses want, drop the price into the PC range and sell LOT'S of units. Ya gotta THINK big to BE big kids! Exit soapbox mode. By the way, has anybody started on ups, the C debugger under X? It runs on Sun 3's so it outta run under Amiga UNIX after "just a few" 30 hour debugging sessions... If anyone's done any work on this, send me e-mail I'd love to hear from you. At this point, "Send me a copy when your done" type messages will be sent to /dev/null immediately. I'll announce if/when there's something ready for general use. -Rob