Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pa.dec.com!wsl.dec.com!gringort From: gringort@wsl.dec.com (Joel Gringorten) Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix Subject: Re: Ultrix 4.2 Keywords: forced to use the DECwindows server? Message-ID: <1991Jun19.105814@wsl.dec.com> Date: 19 Jun 91 17:58:14 GMT References: <1991Jun13.140545.31423@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <1991Jun17.142547.4691@searchtech.com> <14411@dog.ee.lbl.gov> <3459@geocub.UUCP> Sender: news@pa.dec.com (News) Reply-To: gringort@wsl.dec.com (Joel Gringorten) Organization: DEC Western Software Lab Lines: 68 In article <3459@geocub.UUCP>, lutmann@geocub.UUCP (Patrice LUTMANN) writes: |> n article <14411@dog.ee.lbl.gov> envbvs@epb7.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith) writes: |> :"The graphics driver structure has changed such that it is no longer possible |> :to build or run the MIT X11 Release 4 sample server. Because of driver |> :structure changes, header files needed to build the MIT X11 Release 4 sample |> :server no longer exist. Instead, use the servers providev by Digital." |> |> Is it because the MIT sample server is more efficient? |> Is it because the MIT sample server is less buggy? |> Or is it because DEC does not care about us? What a cheek! |> |> |> S H A M E |> |> [Pat] Shame yourself. Evidently you missed Ted Lemon's very complete followup to this article I'll include it below just for your benefit. The bottom line is that the server/driver interface was completely redesigned for Ultrix 4.2 for multiscreen workstations. The changes were given to MIT and will appear in MIT R5. Digital is one of the first companies to release multiscreen workstations (perhaps *the* first?) We're proud of this work and it's being received quite well by our customers. Digital and MIT don't synchronize their software releases for obvious reasons. Therefore, interface changes cause incompatibilities for a while until things get synched up. What would you do differently? -joel -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix Path: pa.dec.com!granite.pa.dec.com!mellon From: mellon@nigiri.pa.dec.com (Ted Lemon) Subject: Re: Ultrix 4.2 In-Reply-To: envbvs@epb7.lbl.gov's message of 18 Jun 91 16:41:08 GMT Message-ID: Sender: news@pa.dec.com (News) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation References: <1991Jun13.140545.31423@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 18 Jun 91 14:28:04 Lines: 21 >Whats the scoop here? Is it really not possible to buld the MIT server >for Ultrix 4.2? Anything is possible. However, it won't build trivially. You'd probably have to be a pretty moby X server hacker to get it all working with all the changes that have been made in Ultrix since X11R4 came out. I believe that our changes will have been merged back in by the time R5 comes out (but the X Consortium would have better information on that, since they're the ones doing the release). In the meantime, the servers for the DECstation [23]100, the Colour Frame Buffer on the 5000, and the Monochrome Frame Buffer on the 5000, are X11R4 servers, so the only reason for building the MIT server is to get rid of the huge, clunky and useless Display Postscript extension. (Ooh, I'm going to get flamed for this! :') If you make sure not to use DPS, it should just stay swapped out anyway, so it doesn't seem to be worth the extra effort to build a special server without it. Plus, the MIT server doesn't do multiscreen. _MelloN_