Xref: utzoo alt.religion.computers:2529 comp.windows.ms.programmer:3217 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!matt.ksu.ksu.edu!rogerhef From: rogerhef@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Roger Heflin) Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers,comp.windows.ms.programmer Subject: Re: ap, Windows BASIC Message-ID: <1991Jun21.002629.17528@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> Date: 21 Jun 91 00:26:29 GMT References: <91169.084617F0O@psuvm.psu.edu> <4k4q47w164w@mantis.co.uk> <1991Jun20.034708.2816@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> Sender: news@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu (The News Guru) Organization: Kansas State University Lines: 41 Nntp-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu In mwm@pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) writes: >You mean QB already understands C, C++, Pascal and ... ? That's >impressive. If it doesn't, then at best it's at the same level, with >one language it already understands. More likely it isn't up to that >level, as it isn't going to be that usefull for multi-language >projects. No it doesn't understand C.. but Microsofts other integrated enviroments do and all of the work exactly the same, they also work the same as most all of the windows applications. >Of course, if I have to use QB commands (if it's one of the >pain-in-the-ass mouse/function key editors, forget it) and can't >configure it to my habits, then it's going to be an incredible pain to >use. Given the choice, I'd rather teach an editor I know about a >new language than teach an editor I don't know how to look like an >editor I do know. Ah, a completely closed mind. >Is QB one of those awfull "integrated environments" so loved on >mono-tasking environments? In general, they're just a pain, but better >than the alternatives. I much prefer the system I've got, where the >editor/compiler/debugger all run as seperate tasks and commmunicate >with each other via IPC. That way, I can use any editor I want, and >not have to worry about what other people are doing. The integrated enviroment that you so had acts just like the rest of the windows enviroment. You bitch about those "pain-in-the-ass mouse/function key editors", what editor are you using that doesn't use function keys? Emacs, the editor with many shift keys? That is only easier to use after you have spent months learing the key sequences. I can train someone to use the QB editor in a day, you cannot say that for your editor. -- Rogerhef@Matt.ksu.ksu.edu Roger Heflin EECE Grad Student (913) 532-5600