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From: covici@ccs.covici.com (John Covici)
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Subject: Euthanasia, Nazi Doctors, and Club of Life BS Propaganda
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Date: 17 Jun 91 15:22:51 GMT
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34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET (Bill Gorman) writes:

> One factor conveniently ignored in all these ravings is the question:
> who pays for all this? One is cleverly led to *presume* that the poor,
> defenseless patient and/or his/her relatives are forking over the money
> for all this "heroic" care, but the gut issue of money is always neatly
> dodged,  ... 

Yes, money does come into the picture in many cases, although in the recent
case in Miniapolis THE BILLS WERE BEING PAID.  But when you bring money into
the picture, then are we asking does a human life have a monitary value?

That is what the Nazis said, specifically: kill all those nonproductive 
"useless eaters"; that's why the  references to Hitler, because the 
groups pushing Euthanasia, behind all their blahblah about patients 
choice and all that obfuscation lurks the very question of money.  

And we must further ask the question that if our society is not 
willing to spend such monies to keep people alive, have we lost the 
moral fitness to survive?  This is what is posed by  the Euthanasia 
controversy and somewhat by the abortion question.  Its murder in 
either case and money indeed is sometimes directly an issue.

But moral values are also the  issue; what about the Wanglee case 
where the bills were paid?  The relatives didn't want to inherit the 
money or anything, so why did the hospital sue to kill the patient?  
These are the questions to think about when looking at what these 
Nazi doctors are doing.

         John Covici
          covici@ccs.covici.com