Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!sun-barr!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26.0!Jack.O'keeffe From: Jack.O'keeffe@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: ANSI A117 Standards Message-ID: <16076@handicap.news> Date: 17 Jun 91 15:38:09 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.isc-br.com Reply-To: Jack.O'keeffe@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26.0 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 64 Approved: wtm@bunker.hcap.fidonet.org Index Number: 16076 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] Hi Annie, Hope you are okay. We haven't heard much from you lately. Yesterday the UPS man dumped a large box on my doorstep. It contained my copy of all the comments received by the ANSI A117 committee on the proposed changes to the ANSI A117 Standard for Accessible and Useable Buildings and Facilities. There were 576 coments in all, and some of them ran to as much as 40 pages. Whew!! I'm in the process of reviewing them in preparation for the balloting in Washington at the end of next month. But what really depresses me is the dearth of comment from people who are deaf (or Deaf) or hard of hearing. Would you believe that aside from comments that I drafted myself (these were submitted by three different groups), there was only one comment from a hearing impairment advocacy? I should have spared the bandwidth on SilentTalk earlier this year when reporting on standards activity and soliciting support. Not a single comment came in as a result. Persons with other disabilities, blind, paralized, etc. came on strongly with well reasoned comments. Why is it that we seem to be satisfied with wimpish whining among ourselves, when we could be advocating in places where it will make a difference? "What we have here is a failure to communicate." (Bogart) The good news is that A.G.Bell supported the SHHH position across the board, advocating for accessible TDDs, amplified phones, visual signals in elevators, assistive listening systems, etc., etc. But with the sparcity of comment, the committee may decide these accomodations are not really necessary. The one other comment from a hearing impairment advocacy came from NAD. Sad to say, they did not cite the need for accessible public TDDs, visual signals, amplified phones, assistive listening systems and all the other needs the proposed standard fails to adequately address. Instead, they took issue with the section on visual alarms, the one section in the proposed standard that is helpful. NAD's negative comment shouldn't hurt. They really didn't understand that what they were asking for (and more) is actually called for for in the standard. Objections to providing much of anything came from some of the groups representing building and facility owners, the ones who will have to spend the money to meet the accessibility standards. The American Hotel and Motel Association commented that "Hotels providing smoke detectors for the hearing impaired consistently report that the units are rarely if ever requested by guests". This is probably true, and it's OUR FAULT! And since the industry groups are the dominant force on the committee, it is likely they will prevail. Obesa cantavit! -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!26.0!Jack.O'keeffe Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org