Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!think.com!yale.edu!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!William.Wilson From: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: braille reading Message-ID: <16121@handicap.news> Date: 17 Jun 91 20:33:32 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.isc-br.com Reply-To: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 50 Approved: wtm@bunker.hcap.fidonet.org Index Number: 16121 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] To: mgflax@phoenix.princeton.edu (Marshall G. Flax) >> Since with sight the total visual field is stored > for the duration > >of the iconic memory, it can contain as much as the eye > is capable of > >sensing in that amount of time. > Actually, that's not quite true. Certainly a good deal > of the visual > field is processed simultaneously, and it is clear that > a good deal of > the results of that processing are stored. But since the > low-level > processing is itself influenced by such high-level details > as attention, > it is not possible that the *entire* visual field is stored Marshall, Although your point is of course meaningless in a discussion of comparison of braille and print reading, as attention, if a factor in the one will likewise be a factor in the other, I'm afraid you will have to substantiate your declaration with some facts for me! Attention, as I was taught, is a factor in processing of information into short term and long term memory, but definately not considered a factor in sensory storage of information such as iconic memory! Obviously, if you are using attention to describe where the subject has their eyes pointed, it would be a factor in determining what comprises the visual field at a particular minute, but Sperling et. al. in their experiment, most definately did not consider it a factor! In fact, tthey quite clearly referred to their findings as denoting a "sensory storage", meaning pricisely that, storage at the sensory level, not at the perceptual level where attention is a factor! In other words, whether the subject recognizes anything at all from the iconic memory is irrelevant, they hypothesized exactly as I said, a very brief storage of all sensory information, long before attention plays any affect at all, at least in the way attention is generally used in the fields of sensation, perception and cognition. Willie -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89.0!William.Wilson Internet: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org