Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!275!42!Dennis.Mcclain-Furmanski. From: Dennis.Mcclain-Furmanski.@f42.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Dennis Mcclain-Furmanski ) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: First Language Message-ID: <16196@handicap.news> Date: 18 Jun 91 16:27:46 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.isc-br.com Reply-To: Dennis.Mcclain-Furmanski.@f42.n275.z1.fidonet.org Organization: FidoNet node 1:275/42 - Radio Free Earth, Virginia Beach VA Lines: 31 Approved: wtm@bunker.hcap.fidonet.org Index Number: 16196 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] I didn't intend for my message concerning teaching language to counter your posting about teaching english to the deaf. I was merely indicating that there were examples which conflicted with the analogy you gave. Purely in the interest of helping find an analogy that someone wouldn't poke a hole in, should you use it against someone like the administrator you're having a problem with. Remember, I'm the one who all but had sign language accepted as a foreign language at Purdue (except for an unfortunate intrusion of a military career taking me out mid-semester). The rest of the progression would have made english as a second language available for the deaf students, and from that, acceptance of sign as a primary language. I've been a political activist for signers since 1983. I'd caution you that you're preaching to the choir, but your arguments are compelling, and very good material. I intend on following the same activities when I return to Old Dominion University this fall. The one thing that made the recognition of sign as a complete language was the university requirement for the second year of any langauge be taught by a native speaker. The validity of a language was built into their own restrictions on who may teach it. All I needed was a native signer to come and teach. I had recommendations from several other universities that already had done this. I had to leave before I could send out invitations for resumes. The head of the audiology department was behind me, but being up for a professorship, she wasn't willing to make political waves. She was a hearing daughter of deaf parents, and sign was her first language. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!275!42!Dennis.Mcclain-Furmanski. Internet: Dennis.Mcclain-Furmanski.@f42.n275.z1.fidonet.org