Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sample.eng.ohio-state.edu!purdue!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!mitvma.mit.edu!JCEHC%CUNYVM.BITNET From: JCEHC%CUNYVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu Newsgroups: rec.guns Subject: Re: Birth of the 9mm Message-ID: <35744@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 17 Jun 91 21:30:42 GMT Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center Lines: 23 Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu I have read in several sources that the 9mm parabellum was designed in 1902, not 1904. And the new cartridge was developed in order to suit the United States Army, who had rejected, in tests, the Model 1900 Luger because its 7.65 cartridge was too small. But again the U.S. rejected the Luger, even with its 9mm cartridge. As for the origins of the 7.65 Parabellum or .30 Luger. It was developed in 1898 of Georg Luger for his redesigned Borchardt pistol. Luger took the lon longer (23mm?) case of the 7.63 Mauser, which was simply the same case as that for the 1893 Borchardt pistol. The original 7.63 Borchardt cartridge was designed by Hugo Borchardt. (I believe the source was either Edward Ezell's "Handguns of the World" or John Walter's book "Luger".) ------- MICHAEL F. GORDON JCEHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU ==================================================== "WHEN YOU TRY TO FIND THE PEOPLE, ALWAYS IN THE END IT COMES DOWN TO SOMEONE" JOHN DOS PASSOS